Genuine and Fakes - The Talking Machine


Horned Gramophones circa 1890s-1920s


Have you ever had the gut feeling that your 'PriZed' Gramophone might be too inexpensive to be real. You're probably right.. Original gramophones are pretty hard to come by in Singapore nowadays and they're probably priced beyond the 2000 range. Branded HMV(dog logo) can even go up to 5000. Pardon my language, Crap-o-phones are pieced-together phonographs made in India and Pakistan for pennies. They are made out of old abused, cheap portable phonograph parts and pieced together to make them look like authentic horned phonographs. The octagonal/circular shape of the wooden base is a dead giveaway. Original Gramophones were almost never made this way.




Secondly, the full brass horn is a common sign that it is a Indian replica.  Nearly all the 'Bombay Fakes' have brass horns.  Genuine brass horns are actually very rare items as brass was little used after around 1908 as, in fact, steel sounds better as it resonates less 'metalically' when vibrated. After a century brass is not bright and shiny but at the very least dull if not verdigris with age.




Only one scarce model of HMV horned machine (the Model 32 of 1927) bears the 'Dog' trademark picture on its case in a yellow picture frame.  All the Indian copies use a fake transfer derived from late HMV cabinet gramophones which used this 'framed' image. This alone tells you that the machine cannot be 'the real thing' as all other genuine horned HMV's bear the 'dog and gramophone' symbol with minimal background colour beneath the subjects and no frame whatsoever.

Almost without exception, Indian machines have horn elbows made of two conical sections soldered together. This was never done in the past.  An elbow should appear as one continuous curve from machine to horn.

Lastly, all original HMV gramophones have a licence sticker at the bottom. Be it worn out or not, a yellowish piece of worn out paper would certify its authenticity up a notch.




Can you tell which are FAKES and which are not?